based on 15 reviews
Accepts Credit Cards: yes
Parking: Private Lot
Wheelchair Accessible: yes
My name is Cylest & I attend Hope Community Church along with my husband. We were invited out over 2 years ago by some friends & we haven't been anywhere else since. Although it is a large church, don't let that intimidate you. The small groups and bible studies are great places for creating new friends. My husband and I both Love the music & the messages Pastor Mike puts out- they are always very applicable for your daily life....especially if you are striving to be a better person! ( Hopefully we all are! ) They make you think & let's admit it that's a good thing. :) I hope you find you'll love it here, but if not, don't fret I'm sure God has a church picked out just for you!
Bigger does not necessarily mean better. Please do not get me wrong; it does not mean it's worse, either. This church didn't start out that way. It went from a small congregation to a conglomeration. It tooks years of growth to get it where it is today.
No worries. You will get out of it what you put in. Church can be a great vehicle for your spiritual journey, but the buck does not stop there.
Please consider attending an introduction to this church via a free class available to all:
You will have an opportuity to see if this venue is "right" for you.
In additon to that, there is plently of information available on the website including their Mission: "Love people where they are and encourage them to grow in their relationship with Jesus Christ."
Sounds pretty basic, no?
The choice is ultimately up to you. If you do no like this church, you have every right to not attend. If you do, it will welcome you as you are.
Yes, there are lots of employees, regular attendees, partnerships with local and global giving, children's facilities, classes, groups, volunteers, services, etc.
In fact, there are SO many that I find it hard to believe all of them could be jaded about it for almost two decades.
Please give it a try and find out for yourself. If you'd like, all members are welcome to attend any annual budget meeting. I do find that there is sufficient information ahead of time for anyone attending. This includes times of services, parking, FAQs that cover a lot of the fundamentals, staff bios, history, etc. There are also videos of current and past messages as well as entire songs for you to check out prior:
I'd recommend "God in a Box" for starters.
If someone out there is seeking a place for their journey and needs encouragement, please take this as a personal invitation to attend a service and make the choice yourself. I did.
Honestly, Hope Community "Church" is a social/fun club. It is a very big social gathering, and that is great if that is what people want. HCC isn't a church of Jesus Christ, however. It is a business, not a Church. The ministries are little business, to benefit the staff. The audience is there to buy the products and support the businesses, and keep the huge staff with a job. Capitalism is about selling a product, so no problem-o. As long as people don't really think that God cares their "good works". The green movement is as Godly as Local and Global Hope. As long as people know what they are getting involved with, no problem-o. It is when people think they are going to be treated kindly, by people of God and treated as part of a family, that the problems start at Hope. At Hope, there are two kinds of people. 1) the staff and, 2) the audience. When everyone stays in their group, things run smoothly. Otherwise, it is lots of stress and drama. People are just as likely to find God at Hope of Raleigh, as they are to find God at a Disney Cruise.
We are sorry to hear that our church did not work for you. But know that we still love you and wish you the best.
Asan out of town visitor for over a month, all I know is they are not passing the offering plate every service...in fact not at all !! It's refreshing to see a church that has faith and believes God for it's finances. This is startling to me in this atmosphere of Christian churches and "ministries" always asking for money. Also impressed how much they do for poor and downtrodden. Seems pretty biblical to me.
I'd rate 5 stars but haven't been there enough! The critics and the Pharisees will always be there as they were in Jesus' time.
I have been a Christian for many years and I have been to independent fundamental churches, non-denominational contemporary churches, southern baptist churches, Methodist churches and Hope Community Church.
My wife and I are new to the area and have visited Hope about 5 or 6 times.
I have never gone on line and expressed an opinion about a church, but I felt compelled to express my opinion publicly about this church.
I believe when you position your church to appeal to the current world, you lose your focus on God and your message (as an affect of the worldly adaptation) is watered down.
*Tattoos and Cigars, not to mention the "acceptance" of homosexuals, and what seemed to us to be the glorification of miscegenation *
Not saying that smoking cigars or having tattoos will send you to hell. I am saying that it is irreverent to flaunt the smoking of cigars and having your body tatted up while proclaiming that you are preaching the Gospel.
I am stating what the Bible says; that our body is the temple of the Holy Spirit.
We shouldn't defile our body by inhaling smoke and permanently changing the appearance of our body with body art.
Are people going to misunderstand my post? Yep, it will be someone like a previous poster that said "I have tattoos, does that make me a bad person?" Ridiculous comment!
The reference to tattoos is about how the tattoos of Mike Lee and the associate pastor want to flaunt them as they speak.
Will you all stand proud when Christ returns for his Bride?
As for my wife, myself and two co-workers, we won't be back.
Hope Community Church: God's Word, sugar-coated by the tongue of today's worldly man.
Anyone that has been around this group for any length of time can see that the money does flow in - AND STAYS THERE. This link will take you to the 2012 budget (http://www.gethope.net/church-finances) which shows they will bring in $9.5M and spend $8.7M on themselves. 54% or a crisp $5.1M goes directly to pay the staff. Chew on that for a minute...5 MILLION DOLLARS of the donations people give go to the salaries and benefits of Mike Lee's staff! Not that they would ever make it public, but I'd bet Mike and Laura Lee are stashing back a fair chunk of change, not to mention they also travel on the congregations dime. I'd bet Mike charges his vehicle lease to Hope CC too but that's just a bet. And how about his personal body guard? When was the last time you heard of a local Pastor that has (or even needed) his own personal body guard?? Dave Patchin (Mike's right hand crony) is another one that's knocking back some cash. What a little "yes man" toad that guy is. Anyway, it's a racket folks; pure and simple. They'll tell you how much the are doing for the local and global community but the reality is they are pocketing way more for themselves than they ever give away. Go to the link above if you want to call BS on me. It's their budget, not mine.
Ummm, if they post the budget on the website, which you kindly provided the link for, doesn't that at least attest to the church's transparency?
What you call 'spending on themselves" is actually operating expenses (mortgage, utlities,etc) and a church with almost 7000 members and 3 campuses to support, there is a LOT of operating expenses and employees support.
A church's employee compensation budget should average between 40% and 55% depending on size and current and future growth of the church.(e.g. a growing church will probably be at the top of the scale, whereas a stagnant church can afford to stay on the low end).
Hope is certainly large and no doubt growing and as with any business-non or for profit- a church must stay ahead of it's growth 'curve, otherwise it will outgrow it's resources and not be able to serve it's purpose .
From your post, it's obvious your problem with Hope is more personal than it is with it's transparent budget. That's fine, but readers who want a review of a house of worship should be spared your subjective, personal attacks on the staff and somewhat ignorant opinion of it's finances.
As for why Pastor Lee has a security guard? I don't know, but there is probably a good reason. Why not ask him yourself?
Hope is NOT for everyone, but everything that I've experienced there has been a blessing to me and obviously thousands of others.
I encourage people to try this church out and if you feel led to attend regularly,great. If not, fine and God Bless you in your search. If you have a gripe about the churches finances, ask for a meeting with that pastor, or an elder-who's board actually approves the budget. I'm sure they'll be happy to discuss it with you.
"But readers who want a review of a house of worship should be spared your subjective, personal attacks on the staff and somehwat ignorant opinion of it's finances."
I have no dog in this fight until I read that. We recently moved to Raleigh, and this is a review site and I as a reader looking for a church am more than able to discern when someone speaks from personal experience versus stating facts. It always bugs me when the opposing view wants to state their opinion, but have to silence others from saying how they feel. That's what a site like this is about; personal opinions. Then everyone who reads it can judge for themselves.
As for a pastor having a body guard, I'm from Tulsa where a local pastor was hit during a service and his response to the man moved hundreds of people. He never tried to hit him back, prayed for the man, and visitied him in jail. Billy Joe Daughrty was his name and he did not have a body guard. I'm pretty sure Paul and Jesus didnt have personal body guards, and Jesus gave very direct instruction in Mathew 5 about how to respond to an attack. So I don't think there are many men of God that could give me a "good reason" for having one.
Just my "personal" opinion (but then again I'm sure you'd want me to refrain from saying anyting too).
5 mil really is not that much for salaries IMO. If they employ 200 people, that is only an average of 25K for each person.
I attended HCC for several years. I do believe Pastor Mike's heart is in the right place regarding Missions but the entire time i attended the church, i never heard one heartfelt prayer of salvation, and only one mention of a politically-incorrect topic. I understand they dont want to offend, however, some of us have a real yearning inour hearts for a verse by verse, literal sermon that does not avoid hot topics but faces them head on. I also never heard him preach on prophecy which is so important in these last days. The holy spirit opened my eyes and now i truly believe this church has become an apostate latter-days church, as have so many others who are trying to be seeker friendly but at jthe same time are not delivering the message of salvation that is so important. I specifically recall an Easter service where the message was so off topic and there was no call for salvation. I left there feeling sad in my spirit. After trying so many churches in the Cary area, i made a decision to aviod seeker friendly and relevant teachings. I am so thankful that God led me to Christ Calvary in Apex. There are people there from every walk of life, age and race who worship together as brotjers and sisters in Christ. I have only been twice but have already met some really wonderful people whereas when i attended Hope, i found it extremely hard to make any real friendships. Hope really needs to bring the fire of the message back into the pulpit and do away with the scripted, themed presentations that are geared more toward entertainment and delivering an experience.
If you want to try another church by any chance, I happen to go to an awesome one in Cary, Landmark Freewill Baptist with Pastor Nate Ange...you will definitely get fed there :) Its nice to hear that you are hungry for God's Word. Its a much smaller church than Hope, but God is definitely present in this church and we are diversified as well! Kristen.
This church is not for everyone, but what church is? The sermons are definitely Bible based and never watered down. (Unless you call a bit of self-deprecating humor from the pastor 'watering down") My wife and I are thoroughly challenged and fed spiritually each and every week we attend. I travel a lot and I love being able to catch up on the messages online. Tithing is encouraged that is biblical, but Hope does not pass an offering plate; it places no pressure on the congregation to publicly give. That is biblically sound as well. People leave their tithes and offerings in a box in the back or anonymously online.
Having been raised in a conservative Baptist church, I understand the desire of some for a more traditional church building and solemn atmosphere-I don’t necessarily miss it, but I understand it. I personally like the music at Hope-although sometimes I do long for some of the old traditional Hymns-especially if the band would rock those songs out! The messages are almost always spot-on biblically and relevant to today’s world.
Seriously? "NEVER watered down?? "SELF-DEPRECATING"?? Come on now. Mike makes fun of others (Facebook is for perverts, Fuquay is for idiots, the short buss is for retards, Chapel Hill is...you get the point) far more than he ever makes fun of himself. His messages are crafted to model the current rock star, tattooed, cigar smoking, "Hotty" culture - not challenge you to submit to the Holy Word of God. If he reads more than a paragraph in any one message that would be a record. As for the offering, check the online budget. They will take in $8M this year, but not to reachout and serve the community or missions, but to support a bloated staff that opperates like a corporation and to maintain Hope Country Club.
WOW,for being Christians many of you are not acting very Christ like! Hope is a wonderful church, which teaches the truth straight from the Bible! Sometimes it is ugly truth that makes people uncomfortable.
It looks like a school auditorium/movie theater for a reason...to make un-churched people feel comfortable and welcome, as that is the philosophy of the church to reach non-believers.
The pastors are most definitely available after each service to speak with anyone who chooses! Also I think it is awesome that pastor Mike has tatoos, I love that they are down to earth and so not hold themselves on a pedistal!
My children LOVE the children's ministry and learn each week something new (i know this because they tell me what they learn as well as receiving concrete information and daily activities for us to do at home during the week!) They do have play time and climbing structures, what is wrong with them having fun!
I was raised Catholic and learned nothing about the bible/a relationship with Christ. I was bored as a child and had to be drug to church. I am not putting down the Catholic church, just showing how every one is different in what they prefer etc. It is fine if Hope is not the church for you, but please don't throw out false information and judgement that may prevent someone from a relationship with Jesus Christ.
I found it a little wierd when I walked into front doors of "church" and saw a concession stand selling soda, coffee and cakes. Then the feeling was.....am I in a school? You will feel like you are at a school auditorium when you are cattled through the doors to listen to an overdone broadway production. And the kids like this church because they get to go into some romper room play areas and avoid the sermon. Religion is a touchy subject and I'm aware of that but this place was strange to say the least. If I want starbucks coffee I'll go to Starbucks. And if I want to see an off broadway production I'll go to New York City. But this church is run like a business and very clicky. And yes ALL churches need donations to pay bills but this place is for sheeple who have screwed up every where else and need to be accepted somewhere. It was'nt for me but if you like to drink the kool aid and lace up your nike's more power to you.
Maybe you shouldn't be going to church with your uptight attitude. The children are taught religion and when they get to middle school they do have a youth pastor. It is called Non-Denominational for a reason. If you want a church like the olden days, there are plenty of churches like that around here. Don't tell me you didn't know it was Non-Denom before going, because I won't believe you.
To Peter D: I'm sorry you feel that way about Hope. Having been raised in a conservative Baptist church, I understand the desire for a more traditional church building and solemn atmosphere-I don’t necessarily miss it, but I understand it. I personally like the music at Hope-although sometimes I do long for some of the old traditional Hymns-especially if the band would rock those songs out! The messages are almost always spot-on biblically and relevant to today’s world.
As for your comment "this place is for sheeple who have screwed up everywhere else and need to be accepted somewhere……………if you like to drink the kool aid and lace up your nike's more power to you. I’ll say this: " All are sinners and come short of the glory of God” -Christians and non-Christians alike. So, if you're trying to find a church without a bunch of 'screw-ups" I can promise you, it won't be found on this Earth…………….unless you drink copious amounts of Kool-Aid !
May God bless you and give you wisdom in finding a church where He wants you.
As far as churches go, I have done a lot of searching in my life. I had a very difficult time finding a church that I enjoyed and gained something by attending. However, each time I attend Hope I feel like I can't wait to go back. Like a good college lecture, I gain valuable knowledge that I feel like I can apply to my daily life. However, unlike a college lecture, this experience brings you closer with God, yourself, and others. I really value my time at Hope. Yes, it is a contemporary service and that may not be for everyone, but it offers those of us who had trouble fitting in traditional services a place to worship. :)